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we've had an election and the clearest debate and the clearest difference in that election was over the question of whether the rich should pay more and tax rates should go up on the rich. everybody who paid any attention at all knows that the top 2% are now taking home a larger share of total income and wealth in this country than they have in over 80 years and are paying the lowest effective tax rate they paid in over a half a century. we also have a looming budget deficit. so you don't have to really be a rocket scientist to understand that the rich do have to pay more. taxes do have to be raised on the rich and i think that's why over 60% of the public in these polls are not only supportive of a tax increase on the rich, but also will blame the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along t
we've had an election and the clearest debate and the clearest difference in that election was over the question of whether the rich should pay more and tax rates should go up on the rich. everybody who paid any attention at all knows that the top 2% are now taking home a larger share of total income and wealth in this country than they have in over 80 years and are paying the lowest effective tax rate they paid in over a half a century. we also have a looming budget deficit. so you don't have...
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if our elected leaders don't do something about that looming fiscal cliff. and that is just the beginning. big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. >>> welcome back. 16 minutes past the hour. no one can be sure if the white house and congress will steer the country away from that so called fiscal cliff, which now is just 24 days away. but it's probably a good idea for you and your family to be prepared just in case. earlier, i spoke with stephanie rule of bloomberg tv about what could happen if the deal is not reached. >> people talk about the cliff like it's this major event, which it is. but almost like a y2k. from a paycheck perspective, you will see less money in your paycheck if we do fall off
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there has been an election. but it does reprise a lot of the arguments from the negotiations between the president and john boehner in the summer of 2011. it's not something that really should be laughed off the page. i mean, the most difficult thing for republicans is accepting an increase in the top rate for the top earners in the tax rate which they don't want to do in this proposal but which they don't ever have to vote for in order to have it happen. i think somehow that will be a key element. >> it's a bad thing that the white house immediately dismissed -- i mean it couldn't have been three hours, four hours maybe. >> i think the president has decided to take a very different approach than he did in 2011. he's not going to put on the table what he thinks the final deal is. he's going to say no, he's going to negotiate it a tough way. the proposal and i hope ron is right and i kind of thing that in the end, as with t.a.r.p. in 2008, when everybody rebelled, and then the markets crashed they got to the righ
there has been an election. but it does reprise a lot of the arguments from the negotiations between the president and john boehner in the summer of 2011. it's not something that really should be laughed off the page. i mean, the most difficult thing for republicans is accepting an increase in the top rate for the top earners in the tax rate which they don't want to do in this proposal but which they don't ever have to vote for in order to have it happen. i think somehow that will be a key...
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and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender with the field. that doesn't mean they are obliged to stop this. his own party is slit. you are seeing groups coming out saying i'm prepared to go for a few more taxes. >> from both sides. on this, not exactly. this is one of the things that interested me. there is a lot of people in the republican party, in the senate who have said look, $250,000 is not a rich man, but it is not a rich person in new york city or loss ang. and the rates, which they want to go from 35 to 39.6%. maybe you are going to have to raise the threshold to get a deal. maybe you
and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei...
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now they know the results of the election. but their positions sure haven't changed much. >> john, thanks very much. >>> a royal celebration tempered by a health scare. prince william's wife pregnant and now in the hospital. we'll have details of her condition. and when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. genius. yeah, genius. you guys must have your own loyalty program, right? well, we have something. show her, tom. huh? you should see november! oh, yeah? giving you more. now that's progressive. call or click today. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. trying to find a better job
now they know the results of the election. but their positions sure haven't changed much. >> john, thanks very much. >>> a royal celebration tempered by a health scare. prince william's wife pregnant and now in the hospital. we'll have details of her condition. and when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. genius. yeah, genius. you guys must have your own loyalty program, right? well, we have something. show her, tom. huh? you...
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democracy is not one election, one time. >> secretary of state hillary clinton talking about egypt there. the country has been dealing with political turmoil and mass protest in the streets and there's a new twist today. egypt's supreme constitutional court has just issued a statement suspending its activity because of the protests. let's get more now from cnn's reza sayah that's in cairo. why did the court do this today? >> reporter: it looks like they were worried about their safety, randi." this is a big development, and these opposition factions behind us around going to like this, but this seems to shift the momentum in favor of the president and his supporters. this was the top court in egypt. they canceled a hearing where they were about to rule on the constitutionality of president morsi's decrees last week, and the constitutionalityality of this special panel that did the draft constitution. the government did a dismal black day, and the statement said they tried to walk in the courthouse, and the demonstrators in favor of the president had blocked the -- and climbed the walls a
democracy is not one election, one time. >> secretary of state hillary clinton talking about egypt there. the country has been dealing with political turmoil and mass protest in the streets and there's a new twist today. egypt's supreme constitutional court has just issued a statement suspending its activity because of the protests. let's get more now from cnn's reza sayah that's in cairo. why did the court do this today? >> reporter: it looks like they were worried about their...
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election in america china announced a new set of leaders. seven men who will manage the running of the world's number two economy. we have paid too little attention to this changing of the guard. what will their foreign policy look like? i have to great guests to shed light on all of that. welcome. liz. you have a very tough blog posting on the excellent counsel on foreign relations website which you say china's 18th party congress was a heartbreaker. it was a triumph of the conservative party. the candidate will the strongest credentials were left high and high. they took their place among the top seven. you see this as a real kind of reinstitution of a hard line conservative group. >> i do. i think this was a disappointing outcome from the 18th party congress. if you look at this leadership group they bring a wealth of experience to the table. collectively these seven men have governed roughly half the provinces. a number of them do have experience at the national level with the economy or political arena but by in large they are distingui
election in america china announced a new set of leaders. seven men who will manage the running of the world's number two economy. we have paid too little attention to this changing of the guard. what will their foreign policy look like? i have to great guests to shed light on all of that. welcome. liz. you have a very tough blog posting on the excellent counsel on foreign relations website which you say china's 18th party congress was a heartbreaker. it was a triumph of the conservative party....
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300 elect torl votes. >> so erik, are karl and dick being put in the penalty box? >> i don't know. it was on his website. he said, i'll be on twice next week. it seems they're having to do some pr work. i think that's good. i don't think dick morris -- we don't need to hear from him anymore. >> the question i have, callie, is whether or not -- lots of pundits are wrong about a lot of things, whether they're being made to adopt a lower profile. they weren't just wrong but seen as partisan republicans as opposed to independent analysts. >> i think there's a couple of things going on here. first of all, he wasn't just wrong. he had a meltdown there. that was more than just wrong. >> about the calling of ohio. >> yes. >> okay. >> exactly. so that's -- you know, that's more than wrong. that's a whole event that took place around his being wrong. >>> i think the second part is this is karl rove, not some other pundit. >> all right. >> yeah, yeah, that's what they say. so yeah, yeah. >> let me move on to msnbc. you even done a little reporting on this. rachel maddow had o
300 elect torl votes. >> so erik, are karl and dick being put in the penalty box? >> i don't know. it was on his website. he said, i'll be on twice next week. it seems they're having to do some pr work. i think that's good. i don't think dick morris -- we don't need to hear from him anymore. >> the question i have, callie, is whether or not -- lots of pundits are wrong about a lot of things, whether they're being made to adopt a lower profile. they weren't just wrong but seen...
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i mean, i won the election. i had the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. >> all right. speculation is in full swing over the president's choices to fill his cabinet for the second term. among the position it's true. this is emily schmidt looking atted leading contenders and the potential challenges they face. >> reporter: a late november white house photo op. >> this is a wonderful opportunity for me to meet with my full cabinet. >> maybe the last grims of this picture, an eminent cabinet shuffle is expected. >> the president has got a lot of very, very good people to choose from. he wants to put together a team especially in international affairs, a team overall that going into a second term does not look like a second team, does not look like a group of second stringers. >> the likely short list to succeed secretary of state hillary clinton is politically charged. susan rice is thought to be a leading contenders, but some republicans were highly critical of rice following the aattack on the u.s. consulate in l
i mean, i won the election. i had the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. >> all right. speculation is in full swing over the president's choices to fill his cabinet for the second term. among the position it's true. this is emily schmidt looking atted leading contenders and the potential challenges they face. >> reporter: a late november white house photo op. >> this is a wonderful opportunity for me to meet with my full cabinet. >> maybe...
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last sunday, they held parliamentary elections. a majority of the winners campaigned on a platform of secession. the vote follows an unprecedented demonstration in september when about one million catalons marched the streets demanding statehood. to put it in perspective, the entire population is only about 7.5 million. the next step could be a public referendum on breaking away. consider scotland which has already reached that point. in october british prime minister david cameron agreed to a deal allowing scotts to vote in 2014 as to whether they want to secede. then there's the strange case of belgium. the people speech dutch in the northern region. in the southern region they speech french. the people elected a set of local leaders who want to break away from belgium. why are break away parties gaining so much momentum? it's the economy at heart. according to leading daily only 57% of national taxes paid by catalon is returned. the rest is filtered to spain's poorer regions. scots also have an eye on england, even though they'r
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he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of americans, 60%, according to a "washington post" abc news poll who favor raising taxes on folks earning more than $250,000 a year. but there are a couple other things to keep in mind, as well. president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that
he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of americans, 60%, according to a "washington...
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that's the ticket for admission because the president won the election and campaigned on that. the democrats are going to have to agree. they'll use euphemisms, but agree to cutting medicare and medicaid. and by the way, that means cutting for seniors and poor people and special needs kids. that is not an easy thing to ask anybody to do, let alone the democratic party. which really created these programs. this is going to be awful and gruesome, but 70 for 60 in your poll, 60% of americans want to raise taxes on well off americans. 70% don't want to cut or 80, don't want to cut medicare or medicaid, so the hard stuff is coming. this is the easy stuff. we can't even get the republicans to agree to that. >> we're out of time guys, nice to talk to you as always. i appreciate it. >>> next, violent clashes along the turkey, syria border and a new heir to the british throne is on the way. our piers morgan will explain the fuss. that's coming up next. >>> we're back with tonight's designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men'
that's the ticket for admission because the president won the election and campaigned on that. the democrats are going to have to agree. they'll use euphemisms, but agree to cutting medicare and medicaid. and by the way, that means cutting for seniors and poor people and special needs kids. that is not an easy thing to ask anybody to do, let alone the democratic party. which really created these programs. this is going to be awful and gruesome, but 70 for 60 in your poll, 60% of americans want...
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two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift. like a lot of things, trying to find a better job can be frustrating. so at university of phoenix we're working with a growing list of almost two thousand corporate partners - companies like microsoft, american red cross and adobe - t
two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the...
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there's an upcoming election. it's a short-term domestic tactic, wider damage is being done to relations with the u.s., eu and concept of a peace process, which is just a consent at the moment. >> it's true, michael. look, the reality that is benjamin netanyahu's current circumstances, his politics and his ideology all conspiracy to basically create this most recent move on settlement activity. not only conceptually go ahead with e-1, but to increase the number of units in settlements in the southern -- southeastern portion of jerusalem. i don't think he's going to go through with e-1, but he is going to go through with some of the new neighborhoods. i think there are over 2100 new units which would be 5% of all of the israeli units constructed in east jerusalem since 1967. so i think benjamin netanyahu worried about his right wing base in the wake of a cease-fire which he's being criticized from his right. in anticipation of upcoming elections does what he basically has done. he's committed to a unified jerusalem
there's an upcoming election. it's a short-term domestic tactic, wider damage is being done to relations with the u.s., eu and concept of a peace process, which is just a consent at the moment. >> it's true, michael. look, the reality that is benjamin netanyahu's current circumstances, his politics and his ideology all conspiracy to basically create this most recent move on settlement activity. not only conceptually go ahead with e-1, but to increase the number of units in settlements in...
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if you look back at the 2004 election, there was lots of debate about whether or not bush's re-election could be pinned on the fact that in many of these states, there were referendum on the ballot about things such as same sex marriage, that the social issues were being dredged up as sort of positive for the republicans. fast forward to this election and as we discussed on the show before, you have gay marriage, you have marijuana, you have these issues on which republicans, you know, not necessarily where the voters were this time around in many of these states that literally in just the last ten years alone, public opinion has shifted a lot. though it's important to remember that i don't think of this as as much of a partisan issue as it is generational. remember, it was just a few months ago that president obama was evolving on his position and you had dick cheney who was kind of to the left of him on gay marriage. so i don't view this as much as a partisan issue. i view this as generational and something that both parties, particularly the republican party, though, will be addressi
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the presidential election may be fading into the rearview mirror, but it feels a lot like campaign season. >> i'm already missing the time that i spent on the campaign visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you. >> we love you. >> i love you back. >> the president speaking at a cam tpaign style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight is over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. >> we're less than a month removed from the 2012 election, but former south dakota governor mike rounds is already looking ahead to 2014, announcing a bid for the sfath. >> i'll be out visiting in a lot of communities around south da
the presidential election may be fading into the rearview mirror, but it feels a lot like campaign season. >> i'm already missing the time that i spent on the campaign visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you. >> we love you. >> i love you back. >> the president speaking at a cam tpaign style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign...
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did you see these momentous shifts in the last election coming? >> no. no. i didn't. obviously, as you indicated, in your opening remarks, it is still against federal law to smoke, to possess, to sell marijuana. it is still -- a schedule one controlled substance and so -- even though under state law it may be lawful and in washington state and in colorado, i believe, january 5, it will become lawful. nonetheless, the u.s. attorney in washington has been very clear in saying that it is a violation of federal law and our job as department of justice employees is to enforce federal law. >> do you agree with the federal law? do you agree the federal law should remain that -- pot use and -- smoking, trafficking, selling, administering taxes on, pot use, should all be illegal state to state? >> well, listen, that law represents value judgment of congress as to what is right important the american people. so -- you asked me whether or not i had personal views about it, i certainly do. as a general manner it does represent the will of the people through the actions by congres
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in the election last month four states voted in favor of same-sex marriage. 33 states in a row previously had voted against it, so the momentum is certainly with supporters of same-sex marriage, but where the court -- how the court responds to public opinion is a complicated and not always entirely predictable subject. >> when are we going to find out how the courts will get involved? >> they don't announce when they are issuing orders in an afternoon. it could be 2:00 eastern. it could be 3:00 eastern. that is generally the range in which we should fine out, so it could be 15 minutes away. it could be an hour or so. or they could put it off for another week. they don't have to announce it in advance when they're going to issue these sorts of things. >> we're standing by. we're waiting to find out. jeff, thanks. >> me too. >> good to see you. >>> how to keep astronauts from being exposed to too much radiation in space. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy deve
in the election last month four states voted in favor of same-sex marriage. 33 states in a row previously had voted against it, so the momentum is certainly with supporters of same-sex marriage, but where the court -- how the court responds to public opinion is a complicated and not always entirely predictable subject. >> when are we going to find out how the courts will get involved? >> they don't announce when they are issuing orders in an afternoon. it could be 2:00 eastern. it...
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remember on election night when president obama was reelected they told a story of his re-election. they went around the world to people reacting to it. rachel maddow went into this president obama. carl rove lost his mind. this was a smnapshot. i think he lost his mind. this is a snapshot. this is what jeff will preserve. >> america cares. people care. they care ware their country is going and the friends and neighbors and kids around them. there's lots to do here. >> the consensus is that cnn need a voice and zucker will help provide it. when we come back, the susan rice side. are the u.n. ambassador and her critics getting fair coverage? . you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, andtill pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles
remember on election night when president obama was reelected they told a story of his re-election. they went around the world to people reacting to it. rachel maddow went into this president obama. carl rove lost his mind. this was a smnapshot. i think he lost his mind. this is a snapshot. this is what jeff will preserve. >> america cares. people care. they care ware their country is going and the friends and neighbors and kids around them. there's lots to do here. >> the consensus...
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they don't have an election until november of 2014. they need to say look, you want to negotiate seriously, we'll sit down and talk. you don't want to negotiate seriously, the country will survive going off this cliff. it's largely a factor in terms of american history, the people will not look back on as a giant tragedy. we need to have serious effort to get this country reorganized and i see no sign that the political system today is at all prepared for that kind of serious thinking. >> but what is so serious about the thinking of a party that just is implacably opposed to raising income tax even for the richest 2%? because the american people don't give a stuff. in all the polls, two-thirds of them are yes, let's tax the wealthiest 2% and by the way, that's me and you, newt. i don't know about you, i'm quite happy to pay a little bit more if it helps the general good. are you? >> well, piers, i'm happy for you to pay it, too. if you want to write a check this evening, the treasury will accept it. i'm delighted with your sense of cit
they don't have an election until november of 2014. they need to say look, you want to negotiate seriously, we'll sit down and talk. you don't want to negotiate seriously, the country will survive going off this cliff. it's largely a factor in terms of american history, the people will not look back on as a giant tragedy. we need to have serious effort to get this country reorganized and i see no sign that the political system today is at all prepared for that kind of serious thinking. >>...
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voters approvaled legalization on election day and it took effect thursday. people headed to the space needle and staged what must have been a very laid back party. i want to bring in sally clark. she's the president of the city council there. she does have a sense of humor about this, but i'm sure she's a little worried because she doesn't know. sally, welcome. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, don. thanks for having me. >> i'd like to you listen to a journalist from the netherlands we spoke with last night, and i asked him about amsterdam's famously liberal drug policies and if your city should fear an increase in crime now that pot is legal. listen. >> they don't have to fear any increase -- that's my experience here in amsterdam, because what i told you, there's a nice atmosphere, a lot of foreigners are coming to buy their soft drugs. it's not heroin or cocaine. it's soft drugs, cannabis, marijuana, and there's strong regulations. people who are under 18 can't buy it. the mayor checks every coffee shops several times a year, the police is checking it. >>
voters approvaled legalization on election day and it took effect thursday. people headed to the space needle and staged what must have been a very laid back party. i want to bring in sally clark. she's the president of the city council there. she does have a sense of humor about this, but i'm sure she's a little worried because she doesn't know. sally, welcome. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, don. thanks for having me. >> i'd like to you listen to a journalist from the netherlands...
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it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works for them. >> the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. >> if their ideas are different from ours, we can't guess what they are. >> we look forward to the time when they are specific. >> they need to be more specific. >> some specificity from republicans. >> some of their specifics. >> that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans. >> i
it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff....
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crist was elected governor as a republican in 2006, then later ran for the senate as an independent. he campaigned for president obama, and spoke at the democratic national convention. he's now officially a democrat and is widely expected to run for governor again in 2014. >>> south africa's beloved nelson mandela is getting tests in a hospital. the country's president says no cause for alarm there. he says the 94-year-old mandela is getting tests consistent with his age. the nobel laureate became his nation's first black president. >>> the fbi wants to talk to a man in custody in egypt. he's a well known islamic extremist. that's why egypt wanted him taken down. but american terrorist watchers think he might be behind the deadly attacks this year at the u.s. consulate in libya. cnn's susan candiotti has more from new york now. >> investigators have had this man on their radar for some time. and now he's being called a possible suspect in the benghazi attacks. mohamed jamaal abu ahmed was arrested by egyptian authorities a couple of weeks ago. and remains in custody while the investi
crist was elected governor as a republican in 2006, then later ran for the senate as an independent. he campaigned for president obama, and spoke at the democratic national convention. he's now officially a democrat and is widely expected to run for governor again in 2014. >>> south africa's beloved nelson mandela is getting tests in a hospital. the country's president says no cause for alarm there. he says the 94-year-old mandela is getting tests consistent with his age. the nobel...
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you understand there was a huge gender gap for democrats in this last elections. republicans have to look at that and say, okay, we have to get something done. but let me add this. when peter hart actually laid out on the table here are the choices you have to make on spending and here are the choices you have to make on taxes, they had a little bit more difficult time in deciding what to do. so they began to realize the extent of the difficulty in cutting any real deal. >> yeah. not belittling the difficulty. these are tough, tough issues. but the stakes are really, really important right now. there is a little wiggle room. >> yeah. >> as far as the president and the democrats are concerned when it comes to raising tax rates for the wealthy. >> sure. the president's been very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot tak
you understand there was a huge gender gap for democrats in this last elections. republicans have to look at that and say, okay, we have to get something done. but let me add this. when peter hart actually laid out on the table here are the choices you have to make on spending and here are the choices you have to make on taxes, they had a little bit more difficult time in deciding what to do. so they began to realize the extent of the difficulty in cutting any real deal. >> yeah. not...
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then there was an initiative put on the ballot, proposition 8, california voted in a close election to overturn same sex marriage. same sex marriage was banned after it was briefly legal. the federal district court had a trial there, and said that law, proposition 8, banning same sex marriage, is unconstitutional. that was affirmed on appeal, that is now appealed to the supreme court and they will now decide whether proposition 8 is constitutional or not. >> when we talk about this as being a historical sort of review, clearly there were different laws passed at the state level. so now it is really up to the federal government to kind of step in and say, okay, this is where we have to come together on our thinking. >> it is up to the united states supreme court. not the federal government. the federal government, the last word they have is the defense of marriage act. and what makes this so significant is that the supreme court has not really engaged with the issue of -- of gay rights since 2003. nine years. that's a long time. the country has changed dramatically in those nine years.
then there was an initiative put on the ballot, proposition 8, california voted in a close election to overturn same sex marriage. same sex marriage was banned after it was briefly legal. the federal district court had a trial there, and said that law, proposition 8, banning same sex marriage, is unconstitutional. that was affirmed on appeal, that is now appealed to the supreme court and they will now decide whether proposition 8 is constitutional or not. >> when we talk about this as...
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they've got lots of votes, but the elected representative, in this case, the elected president, is not as keen on the whole other bunch of stuff. the rule of law, separation of power, individual lib erties, s he's trying to do a power grab. this is the drama that's playing out between democracy on the one hand and on individual liberty. >> what seems confusing, what morsi did with his decree, declaring himself more powerful than the supreme court, he's also at the same time saying he's going to put this to the people to vote on a referendum and that should assuage those who don't like, just go to the ballot box. >> but think of what i just said, so yeah, you could get the people to agree to a constitution that does not protect the rights of minorities, that does not institute the rule of law in judicial review. there's always been distension. hitler was elected democratically, so the fact morsi can go to the people and more than popularity, because of organization, the islamic parties tend to win in these elections. >> it's not as though the people of egypt would like to see this kind
they've got lots of votes, but the elected representative, in this case, the elected president, is not as keen on the whole other bunch of stuff. the rule of law, separation of power, individual lib erties, s he's trying to do a power grab. this is the drama that's playing out between democracy on the one hand and on individual liberty. >> what seems confusing, what morsi did with his decree, declaring himself more powerful than the supreme court, he's also at the same time saying he's...
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but what is the evidence in the last four years or even since the election that mr. obama won't pocket that victory and then refuse to offer any but token changes on entitlements." >> that's a reversal of what they wrote a few weeks ago where republicans will take the victory in keeping them from going up. >> but if you take this deal now -- that's been the hesitation. the problem is you have no leverage. if you take the deal now, you really lose everything in being able to negotiate about spending cuts, right? >> well, i think that a deal is to be made that would benefit the people if it were done earlier. and the incentive is knowing that the scenario that the "the wall street journal" put forth could take place. we need a discussion right now, and we need to have a discussion where we could have sensible solutions with regard to the safe any net programs as well as the tax cuts. >> what's on the table for the democrats? >> i think what judy is saying is very true. we're going to get to this point anyway. it's just a question of when and how much damage will be don
but what is the evidence in the last four years or even since the election that mr. obama won't pocket that victory and then refuse to offer any but token changes on entitlements." >> that's a reversal of what they wrote a few weeks ago where republicans will take the victory in keeping them from going up. >> but if you take this deal now -- that's been the hesitation. the problem is you have no leverage. if you take the deal now, you really lose everything in being able to...
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she noted that the 2012 election had just ended. she didn't rule out the possibility of a senate run in the future. let's see if she's interested. >> that's absolutely right. >>> "erin burnett outfront" starts at the top of the hour. erin, we hear you've arranged quite the debate over whether republicans should compromise on taxes. give us a preview. >> we are going to have both sides of that. grover norquist, of course, already our guest. he's going to say, we shouldn't have tax increases in this country no matter what, no matter how, no way. then we'll have republican tom cole on, who broke ranks with the republican party, who says, let's extend the bush tax cuts for people making under $250,000 a year and do the rest of it later. something sort of like what the president had put forth. so both of those sides tonight. and then we'll talk about the movie "zero dark 30," already getting oscar buzz, about the raid and capture of osama bin laden. there was all of this concern about whether there was classified information that was lin
she noted that the 2012 election had just ended. she didn't rule out the possibility of a senate run in the future. let's see if she's interested. >> that's absolutely right. >>> "erin burnett outfront" starts at the top of the hour. erin, we hear you've arranged quite the debate over whether republicans should compromise on taxes. give us a preview. >> we are going to have both sides of that. grover norquist, of course, already our guest. he's going to say, we...
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it's just the republicans did such a bad job not to get elected. he's just awesome. the republican party is going to have to change their whole way of handling politics in order to change because are changing. >> why are the republicans so out of touch? >> you have to have some republican representative and he has to tell you because i have no idea. >> that's very diplomatic of you, mike. >> it's true. >> you're becoming diplomatic in your old age. >> becoming very truthful because it's just unbelievable why people still have the same mentality. >> when you go back to your streets and meet old guys and so son, what do you think the real cares and fears of the average american on the street are right now? >> health care. there's people that haven't been to the doctor in 20 years, seen a doctor because they can't afford it. man, hunger, homelessness. we're talking about the land of plenty. it's just difficult. we're in dire straits as far as hope and i think president obama and vice president biden give people in desperation that hope. you've had times in your life whe
it's just the republicans did such a bad job not to get elected. he's just awesome. the republican party is going to have to change their whole way of handling politics in order to change because are changing. >> why are the republicans so out of touch? >> you have to have some republican representative and he has to tell you because i have no idea. >> that's very diplomatic of you, mike. >> it's true. >> you're becoming diplomatic in your old age. >>...
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and they were very instrumental in helping him get elected and re-elected. >> reporter: that's right. the election results tell the story. president obama won the union vote handily. nationwide, he won 58% of the union vote. compared to governor romney who got 40%. and unions also contributed heavily to donations and get out the vote efforts. $143 million they gave overall in the 2012 campaign to general candidates and elections in general. only 4% went to republicans. the rest went to democrats and outside spending groups. so you can see the impact they had across the board it and, wolf, while michigan wouldn't be the first state to pass right to work laws, in fact, 23 other states already have right to work laws. so tomorrow michigan could become the 24th state to have one. as the birthplace for the organized labor movement in the u.s., passage for this law in michigan would be a body blow to the labor movement in the u.s., wolf. >> certainly would be. thanks very much for that, jessica. >>> the president's due back here in washington just in a little while from michigan. his focus
and they were very instrumental in helping him get elected and re-elected. >> reporter: that's right. the election results tell the story. president obama won the union vote handily. nationwide, he won 58% of the union vote. compared to governor romney who got 40%. and unions also contributed heavily to donations and get out the vote efforts. $143 million they gave overall in the 2012 campaign to general candidates and elections in general. only 4% went to republicans. the rest went to...
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. >> the lunch took place in november 2008, a week after the election. obama won the white house. but gays and lesbians lost the right to marry in california. >> we're trying to figure out what we do next. then we thought about the idea of a possible legal challenge to proposition 8, and serendipitously, a friend of my wife's came by the table. >> the friend suggested they would find an ally in her former brother-in-law who turned out to be ted olsen, a towering figure in the conservative legal movement. so that stunned you, right? >> yes, it more than stunned me. it stunned me, but i said if this is true, this is the home run of all times. i mean, the idea that ted olsen, this arch conservative, the solicitor general for george bush who had argued bush v. gore and basically put me in bed for a couple days, i was so depressed after bush v. gore, was interested in gay rights. i thought, let's check it out. >> didn't you have any doubts about ted olsen? >> you know, they say that politics makes strange bed fellows. you don't have a stranger bed fellow than me and ted olsen. >> i was
. >> the lunch took place in november 2008, a week after the election. obama won the white house. but gays and lesbians lost the right to marry in california. >> we're trying to figure out what we do next. then we thought about the idea of a possible legal challenge to proposition 8, and serendipitously, a friend of my wife's came by the table. >> the friend suggested they would find an ally in her former brother-in-law who turned out to be ted olsen, a towering figure in the...
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exit polls of last month's elections show that a slight majority of voters think that gay marriage should be legal in their states. >>> moving on now. rain, wind and snow are hammering the west coast. three separate storms in just one week have soaked oregon and washington and northern california. by the way, northern california has been hammered the worst and guess what. a fourth storm is on the way. a lot of areas already dealing with really bad flooding and they thought this was the worst of it. >> this thing just went up fast. real fast. fire department was out here. and got a lot of stuff, you know, away from the house so it didn't float down the road and stuff but this is the worst. >> meteorologist chad myers joins us now at the weather center in atlanta. round four. >> yes. >> this seems just cruel. >> and it gets worse. there will be six more rounds in the next 16 days. i can't stress how much rain that's going to -- once you get rain on the ground like we have now, it doesn't just evaporate and run off. it does run off but doesn't just go away. adding to injury. we have 20 inche
exit polls of last month's elections show that a slight majority of voters think that gay marriage should be legal in their states. >>> moving on now. rain, wind and snow are hammering the west coast. three separate storms in just one week have soaked oregon and washington and northern california. by the way, northern california has been hammered the worst and guess what. a fourth storm is on the way. a lot of areas already dealing with really bad flooding and they thought this was the...
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to cut crime or save an election? what we do know is the money was spread out on chicago's south and southwest sides. the idea? get communities involved to stop the violence. >> nri! nri! >> how? on this chilly afternoon teenagers across chicago's south side are paid to hand out flyers, and spread a message of nonviolence. the nri is credited with creating about 3,500 temporary jobs, mentoring youth and parents, providing re-entry services and counseling in schools, but our four-month investigation found the jobs not only included handing out those flyers, but also attending yoga class, taking museum field trips, even marching with the governor in a parade. the jobs are now gone. cnn has taken an extensive look at where the money went, what it did, and most importantly, the timing of how the program was rolled out. the neighborhood recovery initiative began sending money to tough neighborhoods in the city of chicago right before chicago voters went to the polls. according to these minutes from a state meeting, a membe
to cut crime or save an election? what we do know is the money was spread out on chicago's south and southwest sides. the idea? get communities involved to stop the violence. >> nri! nri! >> how? on this chilly afternoon teenagers across chicago's south side are paid to hand out flyers, and spread a message of nonviolence. the nri is credited with creating about 3,500 temporary jobs, mentoring youth and parents, providing re-entry services and counseling in schools, but our...
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>> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this is the perfect scenario for the supreme court to step in and ultimately make a ruling. there are over 1,000 cases, joe, in which federal laws are impacted by marital status. the time has come. it's ripe. prop 8 was on the doorstep for the supreme court. here we go. >> avery, we were trading e-mails a little bit a while ago. one of the questions i asked you was whether the supreme court essentially gave itself an emergency escape hatch with one of the cases it chose. can you talk about that? >> late yesterday, as you know, joe, the supreme court amended its grant of review when it said, we want to know about the issue of standing. meaning does the person involved in the challenge have the right to be there in the first place. if the court doesn't then what it means in practical terms is if you don't have the right to be in court, you don't have standi
>> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this is the perfect scenario for the supreme court to step in and ultimately make a ruling. there are over 1,000 cases, joe, in which federal laws are impacted by marital status. the time has come. it's ripe. prop 8 was on the doorstep for the supreme court....
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. >> how much of this has been affected by the fact that for the first time in this last election you have people going to the polls and actually voting to allow same-sex marriage as opposed to it coming from judges or legislators? >> i don't think justices sort of said the polls did "x" so i will do "y." in 1986, louis powell, the swing justice of his day, they had the first real gay rights case, and he said to his law clerk, you know, as they were sort of weighing the case, you know, i've never met a gay person. i've never met a homosexual. what is that like? now, he didn't know that law clerk himself was homosexual, but that was what the world was like in 1986, that a worldly, intelligent man could have thought that he'd never met someone who was gay. now, even the conservatives on the court couldn't possibly express a sentiment like that. and that's just reflected in how the court acts. >> what do you think -- are is there any way to read the tea leaves on this? >> based on my experience in the health care case, i am going to not do a lot of predictions because, you know, wrong is
. >> how much of this has been affected by the fact that for the first time in this last election you have people going to the polls and actually voting to allow same-sex marriage as opposed to it coming from judges or legislators? >> i don't think justices sort of said the polls did "x" so i will do "y." in 1986, louis powell, the swing justice of his day, they had the first real gay rights case, and he said to his law clerk, you know, as they were sort of...
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and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states don't have gay marriage yet and most of those that do, it was not put in by the will of the people. i'm a marylander. we did -- our state did vote for gay marriage. most of them had to do with judges ruling. if the supreme court does for gay marriage what it did for abortion and roe v. wade and said, no, this is not in the hands of the people. we're going to say there's gay marriage, that would do a lot to fire up the republican base and could turn this issue on its head and it could become a big winner for republicans because they'd feel disenfranchised. >> what about the flip side?
and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states...
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which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs to be done. they know you have to fix entitlements, do something on the tax side, but they're trying to figure out how to get from here to there. >> and let's just stop there, because let's say the white house now presented a here. how long do we have to wait for the republicans to come forward with the there? >> well, i think what we're going to end up with probably is a smaller here that gets us to something that they're going to need to work on in the
which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step....